Updating CSE Blogs

June 24, 2008

Dear CSE Bloggers and Readers,

Thank you for taking time to participate in the CSE blog site. There have been many interesting discussions on this site from time to time.

CSE will be launching a new improved Web site in the near future which will encompass the CSE blogs. Therefore, we are excited to be immediately moving to a new format for CSE blogs. The new format will continue to post Dr. Hovind’s writings and articles from CSE from time to time. It will continue to post encouraging comments for Dr. Hovind and positive discussion on the current blog. The new format will no longer include back and forth discussion, rather, only positive comments that can be printed and sent to Dr. Hovind as an encouragement to him. So if you would like to leave a comment about a current blog, or an encouraging note to Dr. Hovind please feel free to do that as usual.

I would like to personally thank Paul Abramson for the outstanding job he has done at keeping the debates on a level playing field. Paul, you are a great asset to the Creation movement. I also wanted to allow Paul to address the readers and bloggers one more time before signing off as moderator in this venue.

Dear CSE Bloggers,

THANK YOU!

What a ride. What a battle. What an interesting, interesting time it has been being the editor of the www.cseblogs.com web site for the past year-and-a-half.

As CSE (Creation Science Evangelism @ www.drdino.com) moves forward, it has been decided to make some changes.

I want to express that I have learned a lot from moderating the debates and comments. I sometimes learn a lot more (shhh… don’t tell the skeptics this) from the skeptics and their challenges. It has encouraged me to really think through what I know, what I think I know, and what I cannot “prove” to be true.

Those of you who have been here for some time know that we had a (how do I put this) … red-hot-raging! creation vs. evolution debate for over one year within the blog. Contentions, charges, and counter-charges often filled pages of data each day. We finally ended that debate for the most part, in about October 2007. (For newer folks, go back and look at some of this debate from back then, if you are interested.)

But after ending the creation-evolution debate, we then found new things to debate about! ;-)

To believers, CSE requests your prayers! I will continue coordinating the translation project with CSE that we began 2 years ago. We are excited because our first DVD with 15 languages has been completed and is going to be released worldwide very soon! Additionally I will remain the editor of my own (completely separate) site: www.creationism.org – as I have been doing, and I can be reached through my Email there at: paul@zzz.com

Thank you again.

May “The Scientific Mathematician”, i.e. the God of the Bible, Bless You and Keep You,

Paul Abramson

Thank you for your prayerful support for Dr. Hovind and the CSE Team as we continue to take the Gospel literally around the globe!

Moving forward for HIS glory,

Eric Hovind and the
CSE Team

15 Comments

  1. Laura Tollinchi June 24, 2008 4:56 pm Reply

    I thank God for the ministry of Ken Hovind! His free downloads have blessed me and my family. When I heard that Ken was in prison, I didn’t believe it and researched it for myself. I would like to know more about why he was put there so I can share information with my home school groups-just to clear all suspicion. I would like to interview Ken or family via email-or if there is a place I should be going on the blog to find the info, that would be most appreciative! May God bless you!

  2. Jason June 24, 2008 8:22 pm Reply

    Dear All & especially Kent & Paul ,

    Thank you…

    I too have learned a lot from reading and participating upon this blog. I had never really done this kind of internet blog thing before this site and the learning curve, for me, was quite sharp to begin with.
    Even so, through the time I have spent upon this blog I feel as though I have (metaphorically) learned to walk, or at least stand, thank you all for being so patient with me as I learned.

    I look forward to whatever changes are deemed necessary and hope that they bear much good fruit, and encouragement especially for you Dr. Hovind.

    Paul, you have been outstanding as a moderator. I am sure it has not been the easiest Job in the world, but you have been solid within your role, and I am impressed.

    I’m not sure what to expect from this point onward as the discussion ends, I suppose I will watch this space and see what happens.
    If there is to be no further communication between the members of the blog then I would like to say,
    ‘Thank you all, and May God Lead you & Bless you in whatever you do’.

    All the best,
    Lots of Love

    Jason xXx

  3. campsuz June 24, 2008 10:20 pm Reply

    Thank you Paul for all you have done and all you are doing.
    Eric… my son and I are praying for you, for Dr. Hovind, for Jo, for the ministry.
    We very much appreciate having this blog site in order to keep up with the thoughts and events in Dr. Hovind’s life. We hope the Lord will bring him back to us all soon.
    Suzanne & Enoch

    http://www.myspace.com/rely_on_the_lord

  4. GaryMurray June 25, 2008 8:29 am Reply

    Its a sad day, but exciting news for future expectations. I’ve been at this blog for over a year. Stopped my daily comments quite a while back because regardless the effort, the hardness of man’s heart is only overturned by God. It’s a losing battle to persuade the founded and grounded evolutionist to believe in the creator. Keep in mind fellow brethren… We’re to reprove, but not reproach. Offer the gospel of truth to every man according to God’s Word, step back, pray and let the Spirit of God do the rest. It has never been and will never be the Christian who brings understanding to the lost, but the convicting power of the Holy Spirit of God.

    Don’t get discouraged folks. Pray, fast, teach and admonish in love, compassion and boldness. We’re on the winning side, but not everyone is willing to walk the straight and narrow path to get there.

    We have a cure for death, but only God through the saving blood of Jesus can administer that cure.

    As for the many I have had the pleasure of speaking with on this blog, who has never really accepted that which we know to be truth. I pray for you, each of you, it is no more my desire as the Lord’s to see you condemned. Psalms tells us the Lord knows our thoughts, our hearts and our frame. The minds of men are wayward, the heart is desperately wicked and who can know it… Both of these are better servants of sin than righteousness. So, instead of trusting in the minds and hearts of other men and trusting that they have the answer to life, trust in something that you know in your heart is there. Seek the truth, not a convenient alternative.

    Proverbs 3:5-7
    Trust in the LORD with all thine hear; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in THINE OWN eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.

    Most of you here, who consider evolution to be truth, have heard the Gospel. Numerous times it has been posted here on this blog. Know that you have been given the gift of eternal life, not by us but by Christ Jesus. He died for your sins, regardless whether you user x accepted or accept him, he had user x on his mind when he took that cross. He bled and died so that you could live through his resurrection in eternal life.
    The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ.
    All have sin and come short of the glory of God
    but God commended his love towards us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
    It is appointed unto man once to die, then judgement.

    Are you trusting your eternal life in man’s wicked hearts desires and corrupt thinking? Or can you trust in a creator God, who loved you enough that he blessed each of us with a free gift of eternal life?

    Judgement is at the end, which way are you going? Man’s way, or God’s way. He that believeth in me is not condemned, but he that believeth not is condemned already.

    Simple plan of salvation:
    Know you’re a sinner,
    Know that you’ll die a sinners death and deserve a sinners judgement
    Know that Christ Jesus is willing to stand in your place for the judgement of your sins and through his sacrifice you’ll be found guitless
    Know that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God
    Believe in your heart that he will save you from judgement
    Ask him for his forgiveness of your sins and ask him to cleans your heart of all iniquity
    Confess Jesus as the only Son of God and redeemer. The only way to Heaven

    The only thing you give up, is death, hell and perhaps a little bit of pride which will do MOST of us good anyway.

    I hope and pray you’ll sincerely look for the truth, and not in a fallible idea.

    God bless those seeking and in Christ Jesus.

    PS… Paul, great job, God bless and may he keep you strong, sanctified and studied up ready to keep the truth of the Gospel of Christ and the creation event available for those seeking the truth.

    Bro Eric and Kent I pray for your ministry and family daily. Continue in the good work of the Lord. As always the fruit of your labor will be revealed in time.

  5. EndTimes June 25, 2008 10:40 am Reply

    Thank you Dr. Hovind, Eric Hovind, Paul Abramson and CSE for the dedication to the truth of the Bible and of the creation truth. I reluctantly also agree with the decision to limit debate from those that oppose and conflict with the truth of the Bible. There are many anti-creation sites where they can oppose the Bible truths, yet few where a Christian can come and fellowship with other believers learning and discussing the evidences of a young earth and the truth of Genesis. With an open comment section, just a few detractors can circumvent the entire purpose of a blog dedicated to creation science and in such, there is no satisfactory manner in which to keep those dedicated to contradictory views from dominating the discussions. In fact, blogs by anti-creationist such as PZ Meyers do exactly this by eliminating anti-evolution debates on their sites through software screening and active moderation by PZ himself. Yes, the message of CSE is one that should go forth unhindered.

    My prayers are that CSE will continue to present information and evidences of the literal truth of the Bible for all to read and evaluate for themselves.

    May God bless,

    Peter Laird, aka EndTimes

    http://www.kjv1611revealed.com/.

  6. for Jesus’ name: Phillip-George (c)1974 June 25, 2008 7:08 pm Reply

    Dear Brother Hovind,

    thanks for sponsoring this website/ blog page. we have all been your guests. even many of your detractors showed a modicum of civility here, which is, no doubt, atypical performance for them.

    In 1892 the supreme court of the United States said the United States is a Christian nation, see Supreme Court Justice David Josiah Brewer.

    In 1892 the statement might well have been true. Since then perhaps the nation has fallen into private foreign ownership of a sort which finds Jesus offensive.

    What is evident is that the battle over men’s souls continues.

    It seems that in 1892 fewer American soul’s were ashamed of their heritage or of calling Jesus Christ their Lord and Saviour.

    the Mayflower Compact reads:

    Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith……..

    Br. Hovind, I believe you have been faithful to this.

    thankyou for providing the forum. The God who raised Jesus from the dead, Bless America, the Land and His people.

    Jesus Christ is Lord

  7. Harriet June 25, 2008 9:38 pm Reply

    Thank you, Paul Abramson for doing such a great job! Looking forward to the new format, and hoping to hear more of Dr. Hovind’s status.
    All the Hovinds are cherished by my family, and we continue to keep you all in our prayers.

    From Tennessee

  8. GORGE June 26, 2008 8:51 pm Reply

    Hi Paul,
    I’ve too have learned from participating on ‘cseblogs’. I stopped commenting because I wasn’t sure if it was God’s will for ME to keep spending the time answering questions to people who were not really interested (or rather, trying my best to answer them). I’m grateful for those on the site who were much my superior at answering the critics and for promoting more understanding (End Times and Yourself in particular). I am in turn also thankful to the critics for providing so much towards the life of the blog and in all fairness providing some valid arguments that helped towards promoting a much more objective approach than would of been possible without this critique, all be it neatly sandwiched between layers of highly presupposing scepticism, LoL(Esp. Samphire [996 apologies still left BTW] and Geno). (1Corinthians 1:18-25). (Ephesians2:1-6)

    Thanks once again..

    http://www.mfgc.net/

  9. BadBob June 27, 2008 8:39 am Reply

    I personally think your changes in the blog will be for the good.
    To me I feel Dr. Ken Hovind has been lost in a maze of discussions and arguments.
    I personally would like like to see regular updates how Dr. Ken Hovind is doing.
    I would also like to know what we could do to help speed his release from prison.
    I sent a letter to the Pres. Bush. Is there anything else?
    I am confused why his attorney is not able to achieve results necessary for Dr. Ken Hovind’s release.
    I wonder if there are other attorneys with more experience or influence that might be able to help? Are there any in politics or the media that might help?
    I am really grieved how a godly man such as Dr. Ken Hovind could be thrown into jail in this country. When I look at what is happening in California, for example, it appears this country is headed down hill quickly. We all need to be praying and repenting and doing all we can do as Chrisitans to help this country see real revival. We as Christians have failed to be salt and light. One example is that most Christians no longer honor the Sabbath that was instituted by God to commemorate his creation. Those that believe in evolution have succeeded in the Sabbath being ignored. As Christians who believe in creation we ought not to fail to observe this commandment. There are ten commandments not nine. There are others such as covetousness, obesity, lack of modesty, etc.
    Judgement must start at the house of God!

  10. inthebeginningministry June 27, 2008 4:33 pm Reply

    Goodbye to everyone, and a big thanks to Paul and the welders wife

    Dear Kent,

    I have finished college for the summer but two weeks before the end of term I got a really good witness with my college tutor. I mean really good! He threw all his arguments at me for an hour and a half. He found himself cornered so many times that eventually he didn’t know what to say. He was forced to admit that evolution is a religion, that the big bang is not part of science and that dinosaurs lived with man. He also admitted that there is no real way to know that the universe is billions of years old. He is by no means a convinced creationist, but they are some major concessions to make. One thing that I think that he was surprised to notice was the amount of times that he said ‘we think…’ ‘it might have…’ it’s possible that…’ or something like that. I took full advantage of pointing that out to him, and that opinions are not part of science.

    I got your college course CSE 101 recently (that was on 28th May 2008). Of course, as usual customs decided to hold my parcel to ransom. That took a few days to sort out. Anyway, I have watched the whole thing. I got nearly all the quiz questions correct and got 97% in the final exam. I am reading my way through ‘Bones of Contention’. I was really glad to have watched those classes when I talked to my tutor. He likes to use big words, and I am not sure if he does it because he thinks that I won’t know what he means. Well, today I felt lead to deliberately use some big words for him. I think that it got his ears up, especially when I talked about ‘Retrograde Motion’and the conservation of angular momentum.
    (For anybody who is reading this post, CSE101 is brilliant. Why haven’t YOU got it?)
    I plan to get my synopsis done and then start CSE102 ASAP. Just thought you might be glad to know.

    Remember Kent, God is still in the helicopter over the canyon.(To use your example from CS101) If he is directing you into rough waters, then he knows what’s best. Who knows, with all the atheist headers that hate you so much, maybe you’ll be safe in there. Still, humor aside, I want you to know that I am with you in spirit, if not in body. And the church fellowship is still praying for you to. They keep asking me if there have been any updates about you.

    So, hang in there brother. We’re praying for you.
    Thank you for giving yourself to the Lord. I am a life that was changed. I am so glad you gave yourself to him (not just you but Mrs. Hovind as well!).
    Yours in Christ,
    LEE (McCracken)

    By the way, here is a creation tip for anyone who’s interested. Make your own t-shirts. For my last week in college I transformed a plain black t-shirt into a walking witness by stitching a white band going from top to bottom and from left to right. On the vertical strip, I printed Genesis 1:1 and on the vertical strip I had my ministry logo. In total it cost about £10 so whats that, probably around $15? (Don’t forget we Brits pay VAT on everything which boosts up our prices!)
    GET CREATIVE ABOUT CREATION!

  11. ccherrett June 27, 2008 8:15 pm Reply

    I look forward to the change! All the best Eric.

    The Cherrett’s

  12. warocuya June 28, 2008 6:25 pm Reply

    Kent,

    Blessings to you and your family for all their help. You have helped change 5 lives for Christ and I owe you a lot.

    Paul,

    Thank you for all you have done.
    Your a blessing and a good friend. The LORD bless you and keep you.

    Blessings to all my family in Christ,

    It’s almost over – the bell will toll in the house of Adam – Jesus is coming back sooner than you think -
    May we be accounted worthy to escape all these things and stand before the Son of Man.

    Warocuya

  13. Sisterfriend June 30, 2008 10:38 am Reply

    Dear Dr. Hovind, Jo, Eric, and all families represented,

    Thank you for taking the heat as you have, and standing in the fire. What a standard you have set for those of us who wonder “how long could I stand for my faith in My Lord Jesus Christ if things begin to get difficult”.

    I do not post often, but I read this blog every day. We listen to the Seminars, or the Debates every day. My daughter and I pray every day for you all, and for Paul… Thanks for moderating so carefully and well.
    You all will remain in our prayers. We are watching the sky!!!
    Even So Come Lord Jesus!

    Cheryl Modjeski

  14. 2ndamenduser July 1, 2008 4:59 am Reply

    Paul,
    Thanks for the doing what I believe was your best in moderating “cseblogs”. It was more difficult than any of us can imagine who have never done such a thing. May God give you wisdom according to your faith in His Word and His guidance through the next page of life.

    Bro. Hovind (Kent),
    You will always be mentioned frequently in my prayers, whether in prion or out. I really wish I could do something more actively to help get you out of prison and back on the road preaching. I look forward to your vindication. I have likewise taken a stand as you have, but the persecution has not reached the level you have had to endure. If it ever does, I only hope I will be able to grow and be as productive and helpful to others and as faithful to God as you have been. You are the nearest thing to a Lester Roloff that I have ever known since that great man went to be with the Lord. I look forward to hearing more from you.

    Bro. Eric and staff,
    I’m looking forward to the planned changes. I came to this sight originally to see how your legal batles were going and have always had that in mind when I came to this site. I hope there will be more info on legal constitutional matters that we should be standing for as well as creation vs. “evillusion” (wow, never thought of that spelling before!) in the future.
    I will keep you all before the throne of grace. Please do not compromise all that your father and leader has stood for through the years. Exercise wisdom and caution, but NEVER COMPROMISE! PLEASE! For Jesus’ sake and for the next generation’s sake that needs to see great servants of the Lord stand strong in these last days!

    To regular posters and readers of this site who love the Lord,
    Please exercise faith in God’s Word above all. God has done everything through His Word. When we fail to have faith in His Word, cursings come upon our nation. Just as we easily see scientific evidence of creation, we should be able to see evidence of the truth that God blesses nations based on their relationship and faithfulness to His Word. Check out the correlation of the blessings of freedom, peace and prosperity on our nation to our average use and respect for the Word of God (KJV). Since the advent of the plethora of new versions we have had a corresponding number of evidences of decay in the motals of our nation which has lead to corruption in government, in schools (public and private), in business, in churches and religious institutions and also a rise in natural disasters, foolish legislation, court rulings, loss of jobs, rise of inflation, losses in personal liberties, etc.
    Join me in rededication to the Truth of God; believing it, practicing it and preaching it.

    To other posters and visitors,
    One last warning; the eyes of the LORD go to and fro throughout the earth to give to every man according to his deeds. As it is appointed unto man once to die, but after this the judgment.
    The gospel has been explained over and over on this site; sometimes clearly, sometimes mixed with unnecessary verbage and tradition, but you have been exposed to enough truth to be held accountable for being quick to judge the mistakes of those who meant well but erred in their spelling, their grammar, their attitude, their doctrine, etc. If you use the errors of human representatives, as an excuse to ignore reading and studying God’s Word, you will be held responsible to God, not to the representatives of God.
    Every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
    When that takes place and the results are up to you. You either voluntarily do so in this life of your own will in respoinse o faith in God’s Word or you will do so when face to face with God on His throne of judgment, gnashing your teeth and weeping and wailing because you didn’t believe when you had a chance to while on earth.
    I hope you will put your trust inChrist to save your wicked soul like I have done.

    2ndamenduser, A Pastor from the West

  15. YoCuzwaasup July 31, 2008 5:58 am Reply

    Paul Thank you for the good, No… GREAT job? … (NO, no,,no, no,) GREAT SERVICE, you have done for Dr. Hovind, and CSE. I have been off my computed for last few weeks and could not keep up to date with what has been happening. For some reason Money has been scarce. IDK what has happened? Like a faucet … OFF. I guess this may be the start of some of the predictions of Scripture for my life. Like for Dr. Hovind life in the last few months. Just think it will only be years of suffering for those who serve…God.

    Ever see the Movie, “The Good Shepherd”? Matt Damon, directed by Robert Di Nero? Well, this is a good, subtle way for the “Guy on the street” to see how the working of our, government is truly works, and how, “The Scull and Bones” recruit it’s, “Members” / “Brotherhood”. I’m Italian by ancestry, American by birth, A truster of Yeshua Ha Mashiach (Jesus” The Messiah/Christ, ( My Good Shepherd), by choice and Gods good grace! HE tells me to serve my government. Like Daniel’s times I guess some laws were unfair, and At times… “We have to take a stand”. Daniel took one, but the King was Dan’s friend, and those whom exaggerated the rules against Daniel, suffered HiS FATE, because … The King was not their friend. We are the friends of God … and for Dr. Hovind, those who exaggerated his case … I hope they are the FRIENDS of God for their souls sake. You don’t mess with Gods kids.

    I looked up “Sheep” in the dictionary. It’s meaning was interesting.
    1 obviously the animal…
    2 a person who is too easily influenced or led : (the party members had become sheep, and she refused to be taken in).
    3 a person regarded as a protected follower of God. [ORIGIN: with biblical allusion to Luke 15:6.]

    Both are followers … the 3rd is protected by “God.” The second, By the affiliation it affiliated himself with. Paul … You know what the middle verse of all of Scripture is? Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord
    Than to put confidence in man. 9 It is better to trust in the Lord, Than to put confidence in princes.
    Nuff said.

    Well, Paul I have a Vacation Bible school to help out at.. Got to teach the CHILDREN ABOUT “THE NEW WORLD ORDER” and the illuminati, whom we the Beliver in Jesus truly are.

    God bless
    Anthony

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